Creating Freedom and Life Satisfaction through Real Estate with Dave Allred

Dave, thank you for joining us today. 

Hey, thanks, Taylor. Excited to be here with you, man. 

Been a great conversation so far, and I know you have a lot of knowledge for our listeners that they’re going to get a lot out of today for those out there who don’t know about you and your background. Can you tell us about what you do now and also, where you come from at the beginning of, getting into the professional.

Sure. I’m from Utah and grew up in a very small town, a very low-income, blue-collar home. And when I was going to college, snow college had a recruiting booth set up and it was to go out and knock on doors to go sell home security systems out in Chicago. And I knew it wasn’t gonna be something that was gonna be fun.

I knew it was gonna be hard and challenging. I’ve always lived my life based on trying to always be uncomfortable. And, I realized a long time ago that personal development happens on the fringe, of your comfort zone. And so I’ve always tried it, push myself because I realized that when you go through those hardships and those hard experiences, those things are challenging.

We always come out stronger and others land on the other end and so jumped into it. We’re not Chicago. Hardly had to have it in my life. They’re knocking on doors, trying to sell them security systems. A lot of failures. Got my teeth kicked in, about halfway through the summer, seeing about quitting.

Most of the team, the guys on the team quit. It wasn’t going very well at all, but I’d love to be able to stick. And grind through that ended up having a really good finish to that summer season as a college student, made $31,000, which for me was huge. It was unreal more than my parents had ever made.

And it was something I was proud of. It was a big enough win for me to be able to come back the next year to celebrate. A top first-year sales manager and then come back as a manager the next year and a regional manager, and then a VP of sales for this company. So I ended up, it’s gonna be four months in the summertime.

It turned into a 17-year career managing 121 sales teams across the country. And yeah, it was awesome, and then in 2015, I jumped over to a sister company that was. Residential solar tore the door. I spent three years over with that company and then eventually just retired and went into real estate full time.

I was always investing in real estate along the way, taking that active income over into passive. Probably just because it wasn’t fun, knocking on doors takes money, and I did love the leadership side of it, leading thousands of salespeople across the country. And there’s a lot of fulfillment that comes from that.

And the value can create for, young people that come up into Houston, themselves, midship and recruiting and leadership. Those are three very valuable skill sets in the market. And so really enjoyed that whole side of the business, but I always know. More freedom in my life. I wanted to have a ton of freedom to be able to do the live life, as Dave already wanted to write.

And it was doing business with people I wanted to be doing business with when I wanted to be doing it and wherever I wanted to be doing business. And to the short answer there, Kayla is, I just realized a long time ago. I wanted a ton of freedom and I believe that if I worked hard and I was smart with my investment approach and put that into passive income investment.

Eventually, I’d pay off and I’d be grateful for that approach. And so in 2017, I jumped, w both those companies and exiting IPOs for multi-billion dollar valuations. So it’s really fun to be a part of that and see that success and the scale. And just the business principles and we are are grateful for the lessons learned to be able to observe and be a part of that.

But yeah, she, doesn’t 17 jumped into real estate full-time and it’s been a wild ride, but wouldn’t have it any other way. It’s been an amazing last five years, just really getting, aggressive in my approach to real estate. Currently. Originally set up buying some challenge and condos, and then it was, fourplexes and 25 fourplexes.

And then from there, it was moving up into commercial multifamily, apartment complexes, etcetera. From there, it was going to, into syndications, we raise capital and kind of quarterback the deal and, bring people into the deal with me in about a dozen of those. And then. The next step was to launch a real estate fund.

So we launched axial partners, our real estate fund about a year ago, focused on recession, resilient, passive income through real estate. And it’s been incredible, man. It was, it was a pretty small first fund with a $20 million equity raise. We acquired about $60 million in assets in our first year, and we are launching several new funds here in 2022.

Creating Freedom and Life Satisfaction through Real Estate with Dave Allred

And we’re excited about it. Yeah, we basically build the, build platform, built the team, made sure we ironed out some of those things and now it’s going to get fun. So super excited about that. 

Awesome. It sounds like you’ve been having fun all along the way, and I want to you take a second.

And first, off you mentioned you got your teeth kicked in when you were doing door-to-door sales. I hope that was figurative and not literal, but just being a little humorous. Your teeth look good. Figurative, but rewinding the clock to when you started investing in real estate, but you have a pretty extensive, a longer track record than, many of our listeners may have in real estate investing.

Let’s back up to making that first investment, We understand where you are today. It’s awesome. And let’s walk the path to see how you got there and designed the life that you created. 

Sure. So when I first got into real estate, it was I, my CPA, in my second year, as a manager I made.

Really good income. And it was more than I expected and frankly was more than I ever really thought it was going to be in my life. It was, I remember growing up, I was like, Hey if I can make a hundred grand a year, that was like the epitome of having made it. Yeah. It’s like by, best-case scenario, it is interesting hanging out.

That’s when they’re on our topic on mindset and how that’ll work. But I asked my CPA. What are your wealthy clients doing with their capital? And he said, they’re all, every one of them are either buying real estate or investing in businesses or both. And at that point I was like, you know what?

That makes sense. I want to know about real estate. I’m going to commit myself to become a student. The game of real estate. And from that point forward, it was just being a sponge and soaking it in. And, finding mentors, coaches, and people that were doing big things in real estate and trying to get proximity so I can learn as much as I could learn from these guys.

And so my first few deals though, it was back in the 2010 timeframe and I bought four townhomes. Two townhomes and two condos from the auction. So these were short sells bankruptcies as it bought those for about a hundred thousand dollars apiece. And so literally at the courthouse at a friend who was down there, he had his Bluetooth speaker, his ear, like Friday, $110,000.

Just one, it’s a townhome in Provo or salt lake. Hadn’t seen it, it’s just taking it. But luckily all four of those end up being pretty good rental properties. And I sat on those for a few years. And so that’s how I got started. So I picked up four really small single-family homes.

Real quick though, one thing that we talked about scaling because when I was 30, I set a goal of having 40 rental properties by age. Is that giving me true financial freedom, and then I hit them as 36 and they go, okay, what’s next? And it was, I want to have a thousand doors by age 40.

And so I committed to that and get that one last December. But when I, one of the best ways, people are like, Hey Dave how’d you scale your portfolio quickly? I call it the velocity of money and it’s taking advantage of all the equity that we get in these properties. I never really understood this concept.

When I first got started, I was looking at cash on cash returns, but you look at cash on equity, which is a different measurement, as you hold a property, your equity is increasing. Not only because the market’s going up, but also because the principal pay down every month or the mortgage.

And so I realized, two years into my real estate career, these townhomes and of the bought for a hundred grand were now worth 200. And so I decided to do a 10 31 exchange, right? I like trying to exchange without attacks tax implications at the time and move those up into fourplexes.

And so I can sell one condo for a 200 grand move into an eight, a half-a-million, or fourplex without putting any additional cash out of pocket because of the. Would count as a down payment, right? 25% down payment. And so I did that, on four fourplexes. And so that went from four doors to 16 doors without having to put any additional cash into the deal.

And, fast forward I bought those about half a million dollars, fast four or five years later, those are now worth a million dollars. True story, Utah’s, market’s been incredible. So then it was in the last few years it’s been okay, taking those $1 million assets. Now I have a half million.

No, $600,000 of equity in these deals and parlaying that into either three new fourplexes with no cash out of pocket or into 20 bucks or selling two fourplexes and going into 120 units in Dallas. And so it’s a cool way to be. W, scale and build a larger portfolio without having to dump a lot of extra cash into the deal.

And I share that because I think a lot of, I’m assuming a lot of your listener base, you didn’t have, if they own property, there’s no water appreciation the market recently. And I think a lot of people are maybe not taking full advantage. 

I agree. I think a return on equity is a good metric to look at.

That’s causing me to plan to sell one of my properties this year because of return on equity is not very good. But. I think, one thing in particular that sticks out to me is a lot of investors. Maybe they get those first couple of condos there for those first couple of doors. And then they find out that, Hey, I’m spending so much time on this.

How could I possibly scale? I have this day job that pays my bills, really just trying to create wealth here. And what, in your mind enabled you to, you’re still, you still had the job at that. And you continued scaling your portfolio on the side. How did you and you have kids too, right?

So they were younger at the time. How are keeping all of those juggling those balls in the air? 

Yeah, that’s it, that’s a really good question. I’ll share two or three things. One is thanks. Important that you make it. With intentionality around, if you want to be a passive investor or an active investor, I think most people get started wanting to be passive where it’s gonna be mailbox money, and they’re just going to be able to not do anything and just own rental property.

You can’t do that, but you’ve got to go into and set up that way from the beginning in the right way. And usually, it happens to people, it ends up being passive, but more active. And it’s frustrating because they get so involved in actually managing it or, sourcing tenants or dealing with an eviction or whatever.

I will say, out of all my, I don’t have ownership in around 1200 rental properties around the country. I don’t manage any of those. And frankly, I’ve never personally managed a single one of my properties. I outsource that to a property management company because I don’t get energy from that.

And I don’t think it’s the best use of my time. And so I always outsource that and that allows me to be truly passive in my approach. So that’s the first thing, the second thing I’d want to say. Is, and this is probably made the biggest difference for me in my investing career and my personal life.

And that is taking the time to get crystal clear on why you’re investing in the first place. What exactly is the outcome that you want to get through these investments? And that’s such an important distinction to make and to get clear on what is you want at the end of the day, then simply reverse engineer.

What decisions and what investments you should make today to make sure it’s aligned with the outcome that you want in your life. And that’s not an easy thing to do. I have a whole process for, I call it lifestyle design, and it’s, 10 areas of my life that want to be great at, I don’t want to just be good at making money or just a business or just it, my health, I want to be great at all.

10 of these areas, those areas are Family time, finances, business, and spiritual relationships Let’s see bucket list fun and personal growth. So there are 10 areas I want to be great. I have written down like an entire, it’s actually like an entire spreadsheet with all 10 chapters and I’ve gotten really clear on what I want and he’s one of those categories and not perfect any of them, but I just want to have enough balance to know that, Hey, I’m not neglecting, Going hard at business or real estate.

I don’t want to like my relationships or my health. And I think it’s really important that we’re clear on what we want at the end of the day in the life. And, we could talk for an hour on that topic. I know we got to keep it concise here and high level, but so my point is just getting really clear on what you want at the end of the day.

And then we reverse engineering our investments. Most people make investment decisions based on fear. FOMO emotion. I believe that the key to really effective smart investing is taking the emotion out of the equation. And I love the expression that says the higher, the emotion, the lower the intelligence.

I think that’s very true in investing. And so on a personal level, when I was 30 years old, I have always been talking about wanting financial freedom. There’s a big difference between wanting something and being committed to it. And so I sat down for four hours on a Sunday.

I’ll never forget it. And I just took out a spreadsheet and I said, okay, what is, what does that mean? Financial freedom. And I got really clear and intentional with my approach. And, I figured I’ll share it it with you real quick. It’s very simple. I said, okay, on a spreadsheet lit one, number one, what is my current cost of living?

Let’s say it’s 200 grand. That’s what I need for mine. To live comfortably. The next line item is okay, what’s my current passive income. Let’s see how to condo townhomes and dividend stocks, whatever. Say it’s $50,000 of passive income. The next line item is okay, what’s the gap. What’s the difference in how much more passive income that I need?

No scenario would be 150 grand, right? The next line item is how many years am I committing to achieving this school of financial freedom? And for me, it was 10 years. And then the next line item is simple, okay, so how much do I need per year? And that’d be $15,000, right? So I get $15,000 of new passive income per year.

I will have achieved true financial freedom. And I wrote this whole thing down on a spreadsheet, title out of purpose to it. Cause purpose. Is what makes it fun? We get passion from money. It’s just a tool. It’s a facilitator. It’s a magnifier. The key is what’s. The real benefit to our lives is that freedom is the time from freedom.

Is it experiences that, the hike Mount Everest is to be able to spend time with your kids as being able to give back? There are a lot of really amazing things we can do with extra time and Anyway. For me, it was, I needed to get 40 rental properties by age 40, and I just got super dialed in on that goal and every single Sunday to go back and look at my progress and be able to take with those incremental improvements on what I had done over the last week.

But writing it down is so important, man, because we all write it down. It’s just a dream. It’s an idol of yours. When you write it down, you hold yourself accountable and you get to see those improvements, even though they’re just, minuscule little improvements as you go. So anyway yeah, it was 40 by 40 support.

We rent the properties on page 40 and out achieve that. And, I think there’s the real power behind that, man. You get, what you want, what you need to commit to is applying time and energy resources. And it’s not a, it’s not an overnight thing, but I think it’s a worthy mission.

Nice. Nice.

I like that. There are so many are I hope our social media person here Ram has a field day with all these quotes. You’re dropping. There are so many golden nuggets in here that somebody has so much great knowledge and wisdom that you’re providing us. And you mentioned not theirs while you mentioned a lot of things, but not getting like greedy and your investments or not.

Fear and just to tie it back into, as you scaled your portfolio and remained passive. I think one decision, a lot of people face when they’re getting started, they’re buying those initial rental properties is man, I’m going to have to pay a property manager eight or 10% of my gross income.

Now I’m just going to do it myself and, save that money and, I can do all that stuff. And you mentioned that doesn’t give you energy. I’ve never managed any of my rentals either because it doesn’t give you. And I would be horrible at it. I would be so bad at that job, but what do you think it is that keeps people from giving up that control?

Is it greed? Is it fear? And what are your thoughts around you getting around that, dealing with that? 

Yeah, I think that a lot of it is just a scarcity mindset, it’s, you want to hold onto something and protect it. You made a big investment, and so you want.

And break the I’m guilty of this too. I have more of a perfectionist in some always trying to micromanage and make sure it’s done. And as we delegate, it, it is for me, it’s been a challenge, honestly, even on that note going from, I’ve always been a solopreneur and did everything.

Oversaw it myself. And that’s what I loved about going to the fun world. Real estate fund world is I now have a team of four other incredible partners, and I have a fund manager and a financial manager, a deputy fund manager, and an executive assistant. I have this team where we can go and go dominate together.

And, it’s something that I wasn’t used to doing that, but man, it’s beautiful when you can collaborate and have a sounding board of like-minded people that are on the same. The year on. And so I think it has been, something had to be very intentional with in terms of delegating and trusting other people to help because I feel like you can only do so much yourself.

We all have 168 hours in a week. And but if you can effectively delegate, then you can focus on what moves the needle and spend your time on your core competency. And what’s going to help you scale. And I think a key there, and one last comment, Maybe this is the best we’re looking at.

Should you be a property manager or not is simply see, okay, what is my time worth? So you say, okay, on an annual basis, what’s my annual earnings today or what you want it to be. That’s probably what you want it to be realistic in the next year or two. And then you divide that by, 52 weeks and 40 hours and it’s $1,200.

  1. There you go. And so it can take your hoped income for the year divided by 2000 hours. Whatever that number is, let’s say it’s 25 bucks. As an example, then you say, okay is my time better spent mowing the lawn or delegating that to a yard maintenance company?

Is it managing, changing toilet seats, and running background checks on these tenants? Or is it earning more money to be able to go invest in more real? So it’s a simple way of looking at it, but I try to do that on a weekly base. So with my schedule, I see, okay, now what’s the best and highest use of my time.

And I say that’s very important, that’s a high-quality question to ask. 

Absolutely. That’s that question has helped me too, but I think it’s, there’s a double edge to that particular question for particularly for people with families or, something that isn’t ever going to make you money, right?

It’s spending time with your kids, your spouse, whatever. It’s not making any money, but it has value. And it feels a little ghost to put a dollar figure on that. But if we spend our lives solely motivated by, dollars per hour, Then I think we’re just going to be miserable.

So how do you strike that balance, creating time for those other 10 things on your list that doesn’t have a monetary value? And as you think about that, I’ll just say my fiance and I spent the whole weekend just doing our thing, over the weekend we spent the weekend together. I, put business aside and, we just did our own thing this weekend.

And it’s great. You have to do that. Frankly, live a happy and fulfilled life. So how do you handle that for yourself? 

So here’s what I do. Every Sunday I sit down for one hour and I call it a power hour and it’s on my calendar. That time is blocked off and I’ll take my upcoming week and I’ll look at everything that I’ve got to do between my six businesses and everything else.

And then. I call it chunking. And so I start with the top, so I’m looking at my calendar for the next week. Okay. Yeah. That’s okay. What’s the number one thing for me is most important and the answer is my family. So I was okay. Okay. So I need to get family time on here and it’s non-negotiable so in a different color, right on my calendar, I’ll have, Monday nights, a family night, like family, Tuesday night is sushi Tuesday with the, all the kids we go out for sushi.

Every Thursday night has 14. I’ll do it. A dad, daughter, father, son, date when my kids for one hour, one to two hours. And so I get time with my kids, one kid per month for two hours of just one-on-one time. Great best practice. It’s so fun too, they’re just different. They’re way more open when they’re new, since you, and one-on-one versus even with two kids or address the kids every Friday night’s date night, every Sunday is ice cream sundae.

As a family. We have some of these traditions that you know, that we do every week and it’s just really it’s. I safeguard that a priority, right? The number two priority for me is my health. You gotta protect your energy. So every morning from six to eight is my when morning routine.

And so I’m waking up at six, o’clock getting a big cup of water. I’m going to go work out for work. I miss my home gym and I take a shower for two minutes. I’m going to read for 15 to 20 minutes. And I spend 15 minutes with my kids and I’m going to spend five minutes on meditation, prayer, and then a quick, gratitude list for the day.

And so I do that two-hour routine. Like I was like, man, that’s crazy. You spend two hours a day. It’s wasting like. To me. I thought, if you win the morning, you win the day and not every day, but the majority of the days you’re going to win because you are attacking the day you’re in control.

You are being very proactive in your approach and you’re taking care of yourself and your health and you’re allocating your time for the day efficiently. And then you go and you jump into it. And So I think that my key is I think my calendar. I checked out that time for health. Next is Axiom.

So I go through the week and I’ll carve out time. I call it chunking. And so I chunk my calendar for the next week, based on my priorities, not what’s most urgent. But what is the most urgent to Dave and what I believe is going to create a meaningful and purposeful life? 

Nice. Nice. Okay. So it’s very deliberate.

It’s done week by week, and I appreciate that you lined out that you’re not going by just what’s urgent because urgent things are always going to come up. And that could easily dominate your calendar. And then you’re not going to get more. Long-term very important, but less urgent things taken care of you got it.

And then also, like I hired an executive assistant for anybody that has a lot in there. Hiring assistants who can delegate offload is smart. Or at least it’d be a virtual assistant to help balance most things. I also hired all of my children as employees of my real estate company.

So it’s been really fun to help teach them the real estate game. And there are also some tax advantages there right now with how you structure that But yeah, I think it’s just, it comes down to just being as efficient as possible and creating maximum value. I could talk for a long time on that one.

A great book is atomic habits enjoyed that book. And it’s all about optimizing your habits because I think a lot of times people, really focus on their motivation and how they feel. But in my opinion, motivation is fleeting. It’s an emotion. What makes a difference long-term is the habits that we incorporate daily.

Again emotion might be motivation, might be important to get you to set the habits and commit to them. But long-term man, it’s all about your habits. And I love the expression that says, it’s Tony Robbins. He says we overestimate what we can do in one year.

And we underestimate, what we can do in five years. It’s just having a little more of a mid-term long-term perspective. I feel like it’s powerful. Yeah that’s, I guess when it comes down to what I’m saying is intentionality, I think living life with intention is so important and most people don’t do that, man.

They’re going through life just reactive. Whatever’s thrown at them how they’re feeling for the day. And it’s not, there’s not enough purpose in. The intentionality in our approach. And another last expression I’ve been saying a lot lately is, that I think most people spend more time planning out their annual vacation than they do planning out their life.

Think about that for a minute. That’s crazy. And I’ve been surprised when I got this from us managing all these sales guys across the country. Amen. What’s your, why what’s your purpose? What are you here for? And they can always give like a quick, a one-liner like, I want to.

Big house. I want a sports car, but you dive into a little bit deeper and they want freedom, but then you dive in deeper and it gets unclear quickly. And yeah, for me, that’s been probably my not my superpowers has been getting clear on what I want identifying that.

I liked that and I want to come to and make sure we address, the scary thing that a lot of people are afraid of doing, even when they hit the point that they can do. You left the corporate world at one point, presumably I dunno. We’ll ask this question. You made the decision.

All right, I’m out. I’m going to go do my own thing. Now I’ve created, all this passive income. Tell us about, making that decision, making the dive, how it happened. Were you scared? Were you excited? Walk us through it. It’s been a few years since you did it.

Yeah. So I would say again, I’ve always thrived.

Always trying to push myself to be uncomfortable with anxiety, which might sound weird. When I, when you hear that, throughout life, I’ve always if something scares you, it usually means you should do it, and I’ve based, skydiving eight times and like literally anything that’s been that scares me.

I’ve just done it and it’s fun, man. We don’t, you don’t have that fear in your life anymore because you’ve already done it. You’ve already caught yourself. You’ve crossed that. And we had the opportunity to step out of my 17-year career and go full-time. It was one of the hardest decisions I’ve ever made and it stressed me out, man.

I made a spreadsheet. Oh, it makes fun of mix. I spreadsheet everything pros and cons like very analytical, and that the pros have to step out or less than the cons, but mostly it was just uncomfortable. It was, there’s a lot of uncertainty, and it leaves something after 17 years and it’s very safe and stable and there’s a certainty.

And then leaving that. Uncertainty and walking into this completely new space, not completely new, but fully committed to this space in real estate. Man, I gotta say I’ve never regretted it for a minute. I think life’s full of chapters and it’s fun to be able to close one chapter and jump, head first, jump into a new chapter.

There’s just an energy that comes from that. And a lot of times when I’ve done that in life, I don’t even know exactly how I’m going to do it. I’m going to do it. Take a big bite and then figure out how to chew it. And it’s, to me, it’s, again, personally, personal growth is really important and I’ve gotten that through just taking on big deals and big bites.

And with the 17-year career, they started to like Groundhog day where it was the same thing. Love people who love money and loved a lot of things, but I wasn’t getting that personal growth. And that, that Ford progression. Which therefore made me feel a little more unfulfilled. I think people think that they have more money.

They’re going to have this fulfillment. I don’t know if that’s true, man. I, my experience has been more, I set these goals and I fight hard for them when I hit the goal. I celebrate, for an hour or maybe a day, but then it’s what’s next? What’s the next thing.

And I didn’t even say that right now today. I don’t need to be working but I’m working harder than I’ve ever worked in my career, but it’s because it’s things that I am passionate about that I want to be doing right with the people I want to be doing it with. And man that’s, to me that’s beautiful.

When you blend work with, play in with your friends where you’re just doing business together. Anyway, so walking back through it, it’s just been, really the pursuit of, for progression and life’s short man, and I want no regrets. It’s a motto of mine is. I have no regrets and I can look back on my life there are plenty of lessons learned, but I can say I don’t have any regrets.

Mindset is everything

I, I appreciate some of the missteps. I appreciate some of the bad deals have done in real estate. I learned so much from it, but I think at the end of the day, you’re my last thing on this topic at the end of the day, when I looked back at my life I believe that most people have more regret in life has not taken a shot.

Then having taken shots and failed at it, I’d rather look back on my life. Dave aura took advantage of every opportunity to present it to them, jumped into it, and he did the best he could to take advantage of every opportunity to create an amazing quality of life for himself and his family knows. He cares about and creates maximum value as a legacy.

That’s, I don’t know. That’s a long answer, but hopefully, that was helpful. 

No, I certainly appreciate that. And I can tell it and you say, look back on your life and you’ve got a lot of life left it’s there’s plenty ahead of you. So I appreciate that you dug into that for us right now.

We’re going to take a quick break for our sponsor. All right, Dave, I’ve got three questions. I ask every guest on the show. Are you ready? Let’s do it. All right. First one. What is the best investment you ever made other than in your education? 

Man, that’s tough. I mentioned those for those first four condos, right?

A hundred thousand each, then they went to fourplexes. And then, because I parlayed that through these 10 31 exchanges, that’s been good, but I’d probably have to go to a when Goldman Sachs was our equity partner at this company selling home security systems, it’s called the. There was an eloquent.

2012, where they’re replaced by Blackstone as a PR, as our equity partner. And we had the opportunity to invest in the company as class shareholders with black, alongside Blackstone, with the same terms. And so I scrounged together, all the liquidity that I could get.

Which was, most financial books would say, don’t invest more than say 10% back into your employer where you’re getting your income from. Amanda went, I went pretty deep on it and, and it was, it just felt right. And, again, the day it ended up being, I don’t know, 12, 13 X on that investment.

And so that one’s probably the best investment. 

Nice. But like you said, most financial books will give you reasonable advice not to do that, but it worked out for you. I’m glad to hear that we had the best investment. Now we go to the other side of that coin, the worst investment.

What is the worst investment you ever made? 

Worst investment. Ever, but going back to the best investment Boston Bitcoin, six, $7,000. So here’s back. That’s, we’ll see, I’ll get back to you in a few years on it. That was the best. But the worst investment is probably my first time jumping into multifamily.

And this was honestly about 2006. I read a book called how to invest in real estate for dummies like those black and yellow books. And I figured I knew how to do multifamily now. And so I went out in the market and I found it fourplex in salt lake county. And this was in like 2007, right? Six or seven, like the hottest part of the market.

And there was no inventory. There’s one multifamily asset in the entire solid county market. And looked at it, liked it. At the closing table I signed my name on a contract and then the, that my, the agent that I Googled to find it, real estate agent, she reached across the table and she’s Hey, Dave, I just want to say thank you for my first real estate transaction.

Wait a minute, hold on. How did I not find out about this until now? That was my fault though. In my due diligence, I should have asked that question. Correct. Seven months later, I’m making good cash. All of a sudden, I get a letter from the county or the city saying I needed to evict two of my tenants because it was being rented as a fourplex when was only.

Duplex. And it turns out there’s a duplex with two mother-in-law apartments down in the basement. So we had four families living there and it was misrepresented to me. And so had to evict to those streams of income, went to a duplex or a negative cash flowing. And then 2007, 8, 9, 10 housing claps came out.

I sold it in 2010. You have to go about a $60,000 loss on the exit and literally. Learn everything about what not to do in a real estate deal. So again, I’m grateful for that though, because yeah. Again, lessons were learned along the way, so that was the worst deal I’ve ever done.

Hey, I want to share one thing real quick. As a best practice, I want to say. And again, I’m a pretty calculated guy and I like my spreadsheets, but I have every, I have a spreadsheet with every single investment I’ve ever done in my life. And ahem categorized by category. How much money went in, what the return investment was.

And I put a grade next, it like a score so I can see which categories have done best, but most importantly, on the far right-hand side, I have a call and it says lessons learned, and it’s literally, if it was a home run deal, like what did I do to help make sure it wasn’t a good deal. If I lost money on it, what could I have done differently to have avoided that being a bad investment?

And what I’ve learned is that you can usually do a lot. You can mitigate a lot of those risks upfront if you’re just aware of what those risks might be. And so writing down those notes and those takeaways, really helps you identify your investor DNA and your strengths, and weaknesses.

When it comes to investing. So I’d challenge or invite your listener base to do something along those lines. 

Nice. I appreciate that. And I appreciate that you shared that investment with us and with a lot of people. That would have been their last real estate investment ever. They wouldn’t have gone and bought those condos and continue to scale to where you are today and where you’re going to be in the future.

And you, I think that speaks to your focus on you getting, pushing your comfort zone and just getting outside of your comfort zone and continuing to push that. So interesting. And I appreciate you sharing that with us today. My favorite question here at the end of the show is what is the most important lesson you’ve learned in business and in.

Gosh, and that could be a whole podcast right there. That one question I’m gonna say my mindset is everything. The six inches of real estate between your ears, everything. That’s anything you do to invest in, in that. We’ll pay an exponential dividend or a great ROI for you down the road.

Just thinking big and improving your mindset, eliminating, limiting belief systems. But I also want to say another thing that’s helped a lot was getting a point where I could understand how to leverage other people’s money, to be able to do syndications and funds and create value for them by coming into my deals.

And so it’s a true win-win. Situation. And, I never even thought about that. Probably the first 10 years of investing in real estate, I could go to my friends and my coworkers, my brother, and my family, and do deals together. And that’s been a really fun way, to approach real estate. But the number one thing that I learned in the real estate business would be.

That lifestyle design. It’s getting clear on the end game. It’s if you can just figure out, spend the time, invest the time to figure out what you want in life, how you quantify a meaningful, purposeful, passionate life, a life well-lived. You get clear on that, and then you just simply reverse engineer everything.

And what that does. It allows us to make higher-quality decisions today that are more aligned with our purpose and what we want to get out of life. And I feel like that right there has probably been the greatest lesson learned in business. 

Awesome. Dave, thank you so much for joining us today and sharing all of the wisdom that you’ve shared with us.

If folks want to reach out, if they want to get in touch, if they want to learn more about what you’re up to or anything like that, where can they track you down? 

I’d say I’m most active on social media. So Facebook, LinkedIn, and Instagram are where I’m most active is Dave all red, easy to. And then with Aksia, you can go to axial partners.com or my email is Dave at axial partners.

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Creating Freedom and Life Satisfaction through Real Estate

About our Guest

Dave Allred

After building his own impressive personal investment portfolio consisting of more than 1,000 residential units while a VP of Sales at Vivint Smart Home, Dave has positioned himself over the past five years as one of Utah’s most prolific multi-family syndicators. Utilizing the value-add approach, 

Dave has consistently delivered above market returns through a diligence to research and underwriting that is practically unmatched among his peers.

Episode Show Notes

After building his own impressive personal investment portfolio consisting of more than 1,000 residential units while a VP of Sales at Vivint Smart Home, Dave Allred has positioned himself over the past five years as one of Utah’s most prolific multi-family syndicators. Utilizing the value-add approach, Dave has consistently delivered above-market returns through diligence to research and underwriting that is practically unmatched among his peers.

 

[00:01 – 07:54] Opening Segment

  • Get to know Dave Allred
  • Dave’s journey to the professional world with a ‘live the comfortable life’ mindset
    • “I wanted a ton of freedom.”

 

[07:55 – 18:50] Creating Freedom and Life Satisfaction through Real Estate

  • A trip back to Dave’s first real estate investment 
  • The Velocity of Money: Scale your portfolio quickly
  • Be intentional and have clarity
  • Get your emotions out of the equation

 

[18:51 – 32:30] Purpose and Intentionality 

  • Give up the Greed
  • Dave’s Power Hour and how brings balance to his life
  • Chunk Out Your Calendar
  • Taking the dive out of corporate

 

[32:31 – 43:44] Closing Segment

  • Quick break for our sponsors
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  • What is the best investment you’ve ever made other than your education?
    • An investment with Goldman Sachs
    • Bitcoin
  • Dave’s worst investment
    • First multifamily
  • What is the most important lesson that you’ve learned in business and investing?
    • “Lifestyle design.”

Connect with Dave Allred through [email protected], Instagram, and LinkedIn.  Visit their website Axia Partners.

 

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“I chunk my calendar based on my priorities, not what’s most urgent, but what is the most urgent to Dave, and what I believe is going to create a meaningful and purposeful life.” – Dave Allred

“Most people have more regret in life having not taken shots than having taken shots and failed at it.” – Dave Allred              

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About the Host

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Hi, I’m Taylor. To date I’ve acquired or partnered on over $250 Million in Commercial Real Estate Investments. I help busy professionals invest in multifamily and self storage real estate through my company NT Capital

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